TELLURIDE – The prognosis for plastic bags in this community got a little poorer after the Telluride Town Council during a worksession on Tuesday directed staff to craft an ordinance that would ban retailers within town limits from distributing them. Period.
Council will hold another worksession on the matter at its next meeting on Aug. 3, which the community, and local retailers in particular, are encouraged to attend.
The unanimously conveyed council sentiment came as the seven reviewed a draft ordinance that would impose a 25-cent “Advanced Recovery Fee” on each paper and single-use plastic bag handed out to consumers at local grocery stores.
That fee, of which the town would likely have retained a portion to offset administrative costs associated with its collection and of which grocers could have retained another portion to cover their collection costs, would have gone toward funding a town resource recovery program.
During another worksession on the matter late last month, however, Village Market Manager Bob Harnish made a compelling argument against the fee, saying it discriminated against grocers, and that its collection placed an undue burden on them.
As a result, council agreed to schedule this week’s worksession to revisit the matter.
“I have come to the conclusion that [a fee] is probably not the best approach to take,” said Councilmember Thom Carnevale. “I would suggest that we look at banning plastic bags.”
“Just ban them,” agreed Mayor Pro-Tem Bob Saunders.
Carnevale said that it was Harnish’s statement during the earlier meeting that he would prefer an outright ban on plastic bags to the proposed fee and resulting paperwork that pushed him in that direction. He also recommended that a new ordinance banning the bags apply to all businesses in the community, not just grocery stores.
“That’s a much better idea,” said Clark’s Market general manager Mark DeMist, who testified during the worksession that the fee and ensuing accounting was “more bureaucracy than we are prepared to deal with.”
“I’m pleased with it,” said environmental activist and fee architect David Allen of the new direction.
Three years ago Allen asked the Telluride council to consider passing a local ban on the lightweight plastic bags now virtually ubiquitous at grocery store counters. At that time council encouraged Allen to pursue an educational, voluntary plastic bag reduction program, largely in response to an outcry from local merchants.
That idea, formulated in collaboration with Aspen’s Community Office for Resource Efficiency, initially took shape as a friendly competition between the towns of Telluride, Mountain Village and Aspen held during the summer of 2008. The goal was to see which community could cut its per capita consumption of the flimsy plastic bags designed to be used for mere minutes before being discarded by encouraging people to shop with reusable bags instead.
Telluride won that race, which according to Allen’s calculations diverted an estimated 140,000 single-use plastic bags from the waste stream. It also inspired a much larger competition between 31 mountain towns in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho the following summer that removed 5.4 million plastic bags from the waste stream, according to Allen.
“We definitely need the time to look into some of the questions that remain,” he said. “But I’m excited that it took that turn.”
The remaining questions alluded to by Allen include what to do about paper bags, which are in some ways even more detrimental to the environment that their fossil fuel based counterparts.
“I see it as a real issue if it says just ban plastic and don’t to anything with paper,” he said, explaining that a state bill that proposed banning plastic bags throughout Colorado failed last year because, “it would just drive people to take paper.”
“Both plastic and paper have to be addressed,” he said.
DeMist corroborated that sentiment when he told council that tourists have approached him saying, “Well if they ban that, I’m just going to get paper.”
“The whole point is that the consumer needs to understand the true cost of taking a bag,” said Councilmember Brian Werner, who asked if council has the ability to require retailers to charge a fee on paper bags.
Councilmember David Oyster took issue with that idea, saying that retailers should decide for themselves whether or not to charge for bags.
“We shouldn’t even be involving ourselves on that level with the retail business,” he said.
Ultimately, more research needs to be done to learn whether retailers can be required to charge for bags, to determine what cost-effective alternatives to paper bags might exist, and to resolve a litany of other as-of-yet unanswered questions.
“We’re getting closer to having something we can actually put in writing,” Mayor Stu Fraser explained.
“We need an ordinance that makes sense, that is easy to work with, that has the support of a majority of the community and retailers, and that will work well with tourists and locals,” he said.









I sent the Economist to the old town planner , or was it the manager-then he left town . Mabey my gifts would get rid of some of the other town employees who want to save us. I just hope they can read economic english !
If your gonna spout off Tea Party drivel and say things like "green ideas are for morans".. Then at least put up some facts to back up your statement, and for god's sake, spell correctly.
and think.
Tea Party does both.
I'll sit in my home and watch the empty houses dark windows of the homeowners who dont actually live here-let them all walk -go ahead pedestrianize-no one lives in town. Everyone drives to work and shopping-so lets make the people who actually make this place function,walk. Yeah we'll have an intercept lot =everyone can park for a fee and add an extra 45 minutes to their commute time. That is a great idea for the working people of telluride.
Pedestrianize- another great solution to a problem we dont have.
Lets pay more more more-then I'll feel good-one day we'll all be absolved of our plastic sins. But for now I'll keep typing on my plastic computer,walk on my petroleum carpet, drive my car made with plastic parts, line my trash can with plastic bags, throw out my used kleenex into plastic lined containers at town hall, and pick up dog poop with a town sponsored poopie pick up bag.
I'll throw trash into the plastic lined receptacles on main street that we pay two town employees to remove the plastic liners -wether they are full or not- and watch them drive their petroleum fueled truck around while they water the beautiful hanging plastic planters on main street.
Tax me tax me tax me otherwise the Plastic Bogey man will get me! You know he's hiding EVERYWHERE and is in EVERYTHING. Cant we just tax him out of here ? NO? The Bogey man Plastic ban will get him!
Might the total energy to bring this online and operate it exceed the carbon footprint of all plastic bag use in Telluride (or the region)?
This would say nothing of the energy to construct and operate a tram from the top of GHC3 to Palmyra or blast a tunnel through GH.
There are relatively very few individuals involved in these ski area decisions, yet the decision to use plastic bags affects thousands of individuals over hundreds of instances per person.
So, what is really the low hanging fruit?
IMHO, legislating manners or social consiousness will always be an uphill battle which results in a whack-a-mole outcome. On the other hand, demanding top down decisions regarding energy consumption & responsible stewardship of public resources should be a no brainer and the REAL low hanging fruit to go after ... yet the fox seems to be in charge of the hen house.
BANNING plastic bags outright will create far more problems than it will solve; if the goal is to reduce or eliminate their casual use (i.e. at the grocery store), a tax on them would be much more effective. This would still allow people who have other uses for plastic bags to have them, and recycle them when they're done.
the problem is us, all of us....we make judgments that we need plastic skis to ski well but you, over there, no paper bags and no hot tub and dont cut that tree (we are surrounded by a national forest)...
My only comment is that we should just get out of the war, both of them, tonight...Obama has not lived up to his promise on Gitmo or any of the wars ..
I dont use plastic bags anyhow..I use my backpack...cheers for all those who give up plastic ski boots when they lecture the rest of us on our poop bags..
please get your own moniker-you sound silly and are not me-get over yourself. You cant judge a book by its cover-stop using my cover please.
I use a travel mug, not paper cups.
I will not give up skis. I'm not asking you to give up your gun or your ATV.
I purchased bidegradable poop bags for the rare times I have my dog in town. I would love to see the town switch to them.
Sure, I am a hypocrite, I'm willing to bet you are too, we are human. Does that mean we should behave like petulant little babies when someone has a beneficial idea?
The fact that you are saying that Obama started the war in Afghanistan finally tips me off. I am slow. You are nuts.
You can get down the hill on wood skis just as we can buy your plastic coated cloth bag...
Are you a hypocrite?
Will you give up your daily coffee cups?
Will you give up your plastic poop bags supplied at taxpayer expense in vain hope that you commies would look after your own dog's poop?
And it will be this way because now Obummer sees Al Qaeda as "racist' and you know how he hates "racists"...
As an example, Arizona..the good people of Arizona are "racists"
Point being Obama is your man and look how things are going..
Did you agree to give up your skis and ski boots, hypocrite? If you do that I will stop getting 8 ozs of plastic bags each week.
No more paper coffee cups? I would vote for that. But paper is compostable and degrades more quickly than plastic. What is this love affair with plastic you right wingers have? If we eliminate plastic bags, we could get off foreign petroleum faster, and then we wouldn't have to wage war ... oh, I get it.