Telluride On Track for New Grocery Bag Fee
by Karen James
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TELLURIDE – The details are still very much in the making, but the Telluride Town Council during a worksession on Tuesday voiced unanimous support for the creation of an ordinance that would impose a surcharge on paper and single-use plastic bags handed out at local grocery stores.

“I am adamantly in support of this,” said Councilmember Thom Carnevale, voicing the common sentiment. “I think this is a terrific idea and I think we need to get started as soon as possible.”

The brainchild of local environmental activist David Allen, the ordinance will be inspired by one that went into effect this past January making Washington, D.C. the country’s first major city to impose a surcharge on disposable paper and plastic bags used at grocery and retail stores.

While the capital’s customers now pay a five-cent fee for every paper or plastic bag that goes to help clean up the city’s Anacostia River, in Telluride a more hefty 25-cents per bag fee has been floated, with the beneficiary of the proceeds yet undetermined.

Unlike the Washington, D.C. law, which provides exemptions for bags used for newspapers, produce, hardware, frozen foods, plants, bakery items, and prescription drugs and applies to all District businesses, in Telluride the ordinance would apply only to grocery stores, remaining voluntary for other retailers.

Three years ago Allen asked council to pass a local ban on the lightweight plastic bags now virtually ubiquitous at grocery store counters (save for where they have already been banned or voluntarily phased out) in an effort he described as naïve.

Largely in response to an outcry from local merchants, council at that time encouraged Allen to pursue an educational, volunteer plastic bag reduction program.

That idea, formulated in collaboration with Aspen’s Community Office for Resource Efficiency, initially took shape as a friendly competition between the towns of Telluride, Mountain Village and Aspen held during the summer of 2008 to see which community could cut its per capita consumption of the flimsy plastic bags designed to be used for mere minutes before being discarded.

Telluride handily won that race, which inspired a much larger competition between 31 mountain towns in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho the following summer.

“I thought that was a very successful volunteer program,” said Allen.

Nonetheless, participation was optional and enthusiasm to cut consumption of the bags waned as the contest closed, he said.

In the interim the issue has gained momentum in the United States, with plastic – particularly in the form of the ultra-thin, throw-away bags – undergoing increasing scrutiny and in some cases legislation.

In fact, council’s direction came just one day after the locally-produced documentary Bag It exploring the effects of plastic on the health of the environment and its inhabitants shared the Audience Award (with the introspective documentary I Am) at this year’s Mountainfilm Festival.

“If you saw Bag It over the weekend or even looked at a fraction of the statistics, you can’t help but be compelled to believe that we have to do something about this,” said Allen.

Still, while Ireland implemented a 15-cent tax on plastic bags in 2002 that has cut use by 90 percent, and China banned the thinnest of bags just before the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, attempts to limit their distribution in this country have met with mixed results.

In San Francisco, which originally planned to impose a fee on plastic bags, lobbyists succeeded in securing a state law that prohibits cities from assessing bag fees. As a result, in 2007 it became the first U.S. city to ban them outright at large grocery stores and chain pharmacies.

Yet in Seattle last year the voters overturned a 20-cent fee on paper and plastic bags approved by the city council after the plastic industry invested more than $1 million to fight the law.

Closer to home a state Senate bill that would have banned large Colorado retailers from using plastic bags by 2012 saw defeat last year. Had it passed it would have made Colorado the first state in the nation to impose such a ban, however California now appears as though it may be poised to take that title, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Because of Telluride’s many tourists who might not arrive at local grocery stores toting reusable bags, and outright ban on paper and plastic bags here seems impractical.

“Going down this fee route makes the most sense for our community,” said Allen, who cautioned that the town should be aware that industry groups might try to influence the local debate as happened in Seattle.

“I think that’s something we need to consider – the possibility of them coming in and trying to thwart it,” he said.

Town Attorney Kevin Geiger suggested that in order for the fee to be effective Allen should also pursue a parallel ordinance in the Town of Mountain Village, which he is already doing.

“Mayor Bob Delves is totally on board; he just basically needs to know how things go today,” said Allen, who indicated general support from Mountain Village retailers as well.

“The nuts and bolts of it seem to be that everyone’s in favor of disincentivizing them,” he said.

With a streamlined approval process, the Telluride ordinance could go into effect as early as July or August.
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teapartyer
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June 08, 2010
Here in the Peoples Republic of Telluride you can have brown skin, no papers and lots of people still like you. Talk about a tea party bummer.
Hey bud..
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June 08, 2010
if you are what is euphemistically known as an "undocumented" (and practically known as illegal) worker you got plenty of rights in Telluride...in fact, your 'civil rights" (which are supposed to be for citizens) are guaranteed here in Telluride...

If you get mold in your place..we help you find a new place..see the other paper for details..
tea party
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June 08, 2010
Because- we all are republicans because we live in the mountains which is a wasteful lifestyle and therefore we should pay three fold for the things we already pay twofold for.This is Telluride logic at its best.

Hey buddy I have some more real logical ideas I want to implement now I just need the green from your pocket to make it work-dont worry -taxes are other peoples money,you know the republicans-they wont miss it.I mean 25 cents on a half cent item is a fair markup isnt it ?

There are very few republicans registered in Telluride -another logic hole for your argument-putting the tax burden on the evil polluters affects us all and solves nothing.

Liberals used to be anti government but now they want to feed the government more taxes wrapped up in a green enviornmental blanket, and served up on a silver platter which was eaten on flex time ,chewed by teeth that your tax dollars straightened and whitened. And a stop at the clinic for a stomach ache before I go skiing are all perfectly acceptable ways to spend your bag tax dollars.

But hey Im a green liberal so its okay-just give me a few more tax dollars for my government sponserd coffee that Ill get on my way back to two hours of work at town hall.That flex time is real hard on a governement body so Ill be hitting the chiropractor in the last hour of work. One hour of work for eight hours of pay? Its okay the republicans are paying for it ! Doesnt that make you feel green / I mean good ?
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June 08, 2010
there is nothing friendly about Telluride. It chock full of cruel, vicious and arrogant "pretenders".

pretend enviromentalists

pretend progressives.

pretend tea baggers.

pretend patriots.

pretend mayor.

civil liberty safe zone? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Telluride is the laughing stock of Colorado. The only people who dont realize it are the fools who live there.
Because....
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June 07, 2010
"Living here is not sustainable without petroleum ,we import everything to live here -electricity,food,supplies and all the other items we want and need."

Therefore: Waste as much as you want. Pollute as much as you want. It's our God-given right and the Republican way.
tea party
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June 07, 2010
Dear Uh

There is no vote on this tax it is a shove it down your throat tax.

Please give up the hypocritical lifestyle view-does your "sustainable" lifestyle diet consist if marmot stew, dandelion greens and rose hips ? There is not much else to eat around here on a "sustainable " diet. Did you walk to get here, or ride a horse and be sure to use a horsey poop bag ?

Living here is not sustainable without petroleum ,we import everything to live here -electricity,food,supplies and all the other items we want and need. Having such a small community so far from a large farming and distribution center is wasteful-thats a fact of mountain living.Please dont act like this isnt how you live.Taxing ourselves to be absolved of our eviornmental sins doesnt work.

Taxing ourselves for activists pet utopian projects is frivolous and it undermines our community. the exorbident tax will not save the envionment in any way-how will the revenue be spent ?Where will all the tax dollars go.

Lets stop taking the green out of our pockets for every new 'save the environment' idea that comes to town-lets put the green back in our hearts and volenteer to work together-like the bag program,we won-or give a hoot dont pollute, or dont drive day.Our actions are better spent than just recieving a 25 cent token of absolution which will be wasted on flex time pay for the new Administrator of Bag Policy at the Telluride town hall. And the San Miguel County Bag Inspector will want his cut too.Open your pockets here they come lookin for your green!
Uh.......
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June 07, 2010
Telluride has been "progressive" since the hippies displaced the miners (and no, they didn't necessarily get along). But the real rancor came when we became a boom town and people thought the mints they were making flipping houses and selling realty ads was their entitlement. Actually now that the bubble has burst, Telluride is beginning to return to being a friendly community again.

Vote for the bag tax. Let's be on the forefront of sustainability and cutting back on petroleum use--especially in light of what's happening in the Gulf.
Former Telluridian
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June 07, 2010
I lived in Telluride for many years, when it was a live and let live town. When everyone said "hi" to everyone, and they all got along, even the hippies, rastas, bikers, and cowboys. Now it has been taken over by the progressives, how sad it is.
Pres Obama
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June 06, 2010
announces an end to the global ban on whaling allowing the wholesale slaughter by factory ships of the remaining whales..which leads me to believe he is the Devil..doing nothing as the Gulf is spoiled, increasing the murder in two wars and now causing the extinction of the whales...

Argue the facts, please. Is Obama the Devil, intent on imploding the world?
Wake up
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June 06, 2010
to allroadsleadtodogpoo..this has nothing to do with plastic bags, they are the tool that this elite bunch, now in control, will use to "teach' you to live properly...

the modern liberal mindset...listen to us we are smarter than you...and now you have them in control here in Telluride.

And in DC but that fellow is turning out quite incompetent and also a warmonger...

but you voted this cabal in
allroadsleadtodogpoo
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June 06, 2010
So, on the river trail, anyone can, and is super encouraged to use a very thick plastic bag (I'm guessing at least 3 times the durability -ie. 3 times the product- than the grocery bags) ONE TIME in order to pick up and dispose of dog poop. At the grocery store (where the bags are perfectly suited for additional uses, I use them for trash bags in small bathroom trashcans, to pick up my neighbors dog poop in my yard, trash bags in the car, bag up toys someones kids left at my house, the list goes on) I will pay 25 cents for a bag that is MORE likely to be used more than one time, less durable, thick, in effect LESS waste than the dog bag! Seems to me, the clowncil has missed the point here. On one side they are begging us to use the dog bags, and throw them away- maybe, they should have tried to encourage a re-use program instead- like hey, use your plastic grocery bags to pick up your dog poop!! Now I think I may just use their free dog poop bags for my groceries.

I think that if town council had thought about this issue for more than a minute, they could've come up with a much better re-use, and incentive program. And they should've looked at public programs (dog poop) that give out free plastic bags and try reduce their own waste before hitting private businesses with a forced tax. Will the Town of Telluride be taxed for each dog poop bag that gets used??

It needs to be noted, that aside from the freaks that regularly post on these boards, there are a whole bunch of reasonable, moderate people out there that think this tax is absurd, but are not the scurge of the earth littering, wasteful bastards. They can see both sides. Y'all should try it, and calm down.
psyched
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June 05, 2010
Good riddance teabaggers. Go spend your money elsewhere. The loss of revenue is worth the increase in quality of life around here.
Exactly...
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June 05, 2010
The Tea Party'ers, the largest grouping of people in the US..and you dont want them in Telluride..."avoid the Commie People's Repugnant Telluride"

Ok, we have plenty of other places to spend our dough..

Thanks for clarifying
FaceOnMars (nli)
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June 05, 2010
It would almost certainly be the highest tax rate imposed on any transaction or existing taxable event; probably on the order of 25x the retail value of the item (if it cost $.01 for a grocer to purchase a bag).

It's also akin to a "sin tax", yet it is somewhat of an arbitrary item to tax when you think about all of the plastic in use in our daily lives.

Maybe it's one of the more ubiquitous items which is "low hanging fruit" & you've got to start somewhere, but it strikes me as kind of like trying to "legislate good manners" ... whereas in reality it's just something which needs to come from within, and some will just never get it.
have some cojones
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June 05, 2010
I hope the council has the cojones to implement this tax on polluters. Sales receipts have been strong; I think we can afford to alienate the people who think America is their own personal garbage dump. Hopefully the teabaggers ad their ilk will have the good sense to avoid the Peoples Republic of Telluride.
Yes the Commie
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June 05, 2010
Cabal is awork here in Telluride.

Message to tourists..we want your money-in the form of TMRAO tax, lodging tax, the 10.4% overall tax and now the bag tax...

Some of it is Socialism for the Rich (Telski gets the marketing and TMRAO tax) and some of it is Socialism for the Commies over at Town Hall..

You, your just what we feed on.

Whoah!
working man
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June 05, 2010
Question.....Please respond....

Would you have or would you in the future vote for smoeone for town council who made a statement prior to the election, "If I am elected to represent your best interests I promise to Tax You and everone else in our friendly town 25 cents for every plastic bag you use." Funny, I never heard that during the election yet this tax was already formulated, in the process and pretty much passed way back then.
tea party
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June 05, 2010
To sloth what is your argument anyway?Save the world if you wish-why dont you go stick your finger in that big whole in the ocean and save us like the little dutch boy? We all are going to be eating ,drinking and breathing that oil for years to come.

This argument is about taking money from us to pay another person to work for the town with full benefits.How does that save the enviornment ?

How about this- you invent a product that replaces platics until that happens keep on the real argument in this blog its about taxing us for bags. Come on -25cents a bag is going to cure our worldly enviornmental problems ?

To trot -try to name 5 products that you are touching right now that dont contain plastic or are manufactured without petroleum. I love a clean enviornment but a 25 cent tax on bags in telluride wont help anything.They'll just turn around and spend the taxes on dog poop bags.
Do you need
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June 05, 2010
a permit on Colorado Avenue to set up tables and such?

Seems to me that the socialist bunch now congregating at the Bean would do far less damage if they didnt have all that time and place on their hands to dream up silliness like taxing plastic bags...

Besides, coffee production exploits child labor...think of that, socialist
Marketer in Tride
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June 05, 2010
The new Telluride Ski and Golf Slogan:

Ski Deep and Remember Your Boot Bag is Your Grocery Bag

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